Mother Miriam has done a complete 180 on the SSPX: "God has established His Church, his universe, everything on obedience, everything on obedience. Children are to obey their parents, not if their parents are holy and right, in everything but sin. Wives are to submit to their husbands, not because they're holy, not because they're right, but because God has given them that position — again, in everything but sin. Religious are to obey their superiors, whether their superior is right or holier than them, or no matter what it is, they are to obey in everything. And Christ's sheep, which is us, every one of us is to obey the successor of Peter, whether we know for sure he is, whether we agree with him, whether we can point out definite heresy. If he's the Pope, then we obey in everything but sin. We don't come against him. So that's where I left it yesterday, and my heart was completely converted."
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Patrick Coffin sits down with journalist Christine Niles (@ChristineNiles1) for a frank discussion on the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), including its canonical situation, excommunications, governance/oversight challenges, and reported issues such as handling of abuse allegations. The conversation was broadcast live earlier today on X and simulcast on YouTube/Facebook. Ways to watch the full replay: Patrick Coffin • Search YouTube: “Patrick Coffin SSPX Christine Niles” or “CoffinMedia SSPX” (likely uploaded to his channel shortly after the live) • Or check Patrick Coffin’s X (@CoffinMedia), YouTube, or Facebook for the archived video This appears to be one of the more balanced recent treatments of the topic. Worth watching and discerning in light of Church teaching on authority, the sacraments, and the ongoing quest for full unity and reform in the Church. Deo gratias for journalists and voices willing to examine difficult matters.
It gets weird: Father Davide Cito, professor of canon law at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome: "although the Orthodox churches are not in full communion with Rome, they are not currently in a state of formal schism comparable to that of the Society of St. Pius X."
I have an idea that may solve all our problems. Since this has become the equivalent of a WWF high profile wrestling match, let's play it out with a "Loser Leave Town" cage match where Cdls. Burke, Muller, Zuppi, Fernandez, Cupich, Tobin, McElroy fight it out. The losers must "leave town", resign their position and the winner is excommunicated! I'd buy tickets to that one
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Seriously. Leo found time to meet with the Chinese Communists who picked their own bishops. He met with James Martin. He met with decorators for the apostolic palace. But couldn’t find time to meet with the SSPX. That is a fact JCS 77 (@musicthinker13) on X
“Vatican swiftly excommunicated 6 SSPX bishops after their illicit ordinations, defying Pope Leo XIV’s appeal. Canonist Fr. Murray clarifies the decree targets the bishops primarily; priests & laity aren’t automatically excommunicated by mere attendance—‘formal adherence’ to schism requires clear acts, not just attending TLM. A canonical mess with warnings, but the laity seeking Tradition remain safe in good faith. Important discussion on unity, liturgy, and avoiding unnecessary division in the Church.
Just as predicted, when the Holy See announced the excommunication of the bishops consecrated by the Society of Saint Pius X, the headlines were horrible. Attention immediately centred upon the gravity of the penalty and the implications for the Society’s future. Supporters and critics alike hurried to debate Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre’s legacy, the necessity claimed by the Society and the consequences for traditional Catholics throughout the world. Almost unnoticed, however, another conversation began among canon lawyers.
The essential difference between these two groups lies not in their attachment to the traditional Mass, but in their public judgment on the causes of the crisis. Canonically recognized traditional communities continue, by virtue of their statutes, to institutionally accept the Second Vatican Council and the liturgical reforms. They may criticize certain excesses or interpretations, but they do not contest the principles or the legitimacy of the reforms. The SSPX, on the contrary, considers that several conciliar teachings, particularly on religious freedom, ecumenism and collegiality, as well as the liturgical reform itself, constitute deep causes of the crisis and must therefore be subjected to doctrinal criticism.